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Отправлено 20 October 2014 - 02:50

Все отредактированные версии находятся в отдельной теме.

АНГЛИЙСКИЙ отредактированный вариант #135
Перевод: Марго-2014, baikalchanga, Александр-СПб, Подруга
Редактирование: Rowan Berkeley

НЕМЕЦКИЙ перевод полностью #218
Перевод: schuelze, Derevo

ФРАНЦУЗСКИЙ перевод полностью #201
Перевод: Ave, Derevo
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ИСПАНСКИЙ Ada Elena
Введение Ada Elena #200
Русский выбор, социальная справедливость и национальная мобилизация 1 - 4
1 Ada Elena #200, #205
2 - 4
Ada Elena #205
Возвращение в Россию 5 - 10 #215
Построение справедливого общества 11 - 16
Война - трагедия, избежать которой подчас невозможно 17, 18
Национальная мобилизация 19 - 22

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Сообщение отредактировал Derevo: 27 October 2014 - 15:03

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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 01:47

Что разница во времени делает! Приходишь, а тут столько всего. Ладно, больше переводов хороших и разных. (В смысле - не выбрасывать же!
Putin's DECADE BROUGHT BACK RUSSIAN HOPES FOR REBIRTH
The former head of ЮКОС, Mikhail Khodorkovsky has delivered a speech in the international human rights organization Freedom House Washington headquarter in in early October denouncing the government and the president of Russia. This speech had formed the basis of the manifesto published later. Being supported by global financial oligarchy, Khodorkovsky has presented some conceptual theses, using comparisons, analogies and associations dearly perceptible by Russian people. He even copies the patriotic rhetoric’s technique sometimes. The former oligarch tries to reconcile the contraries
advancing claims to be some ultimate authority (using enviable pathos). He apparently “introduce” the liberal "values" alien to Russia and Russian people into the concept of national pride and justice nearest and dearest to the Russian soul, creating a dangerous illusion of their organic compatibility. Khodorkovsky, purportedly habituate the active part of the society to the future liberal reforms initiated by world backstage. Moreover he presents these reforms to be the only possible and useful.

Unfortunately, we can’t just ignore this patchwork and leave it unanswered. Too dangerous words were heard from an evident enemy of Russia and the attempt of scenario expected can result in too destructive effect. To answer the liberal globalist scenario imposed by Khodorkovsky under the guise of a new round of "reforms", we must provide the Russian patriotic response.
The theses mentioned above are not just idle speculation of rich and extraordinary criminal escaped from his Motherland: The statements pretend to be the ideological program of new coup in Russia - the "road map" for oligarchic riot against the Leader, the Nation and the State Power (as ever in Russian history). Well, let’s analyze it point by point.

Russian choice, social equity and national uprising

1. The last Russian Tsar-Martyr Nicholas II wrote 100 years ago: "Treason, cowardice and deceiving everywhere" He meant neither people, nor fools and roads. He meant the political, military and economic elite of that time. Treason of elites had resulted in collapse of Russian Empire, the greatest world power. Under the leadership of the British envoy 200 years ago the political elite participated in the regicide of Emperor Paul. The later effect was the Napoleonic invasion and the War of 1812.

During Time of Troubles 400 years ago, the political elite of Russia swore fealty to impostors and the Polish king, betraying the Motherland and Faith. The only Russian militia revolt saved Russia and Orthodoxy at that time, starting a new dynasty of Russian tsars. We can’t see big changes in Russia since that time.
Russian leaders relying on the Russian people sacrifice their lives to the altar of the Homeland, while corrupt comprador elites do not disdain to betray the Motherland and the Emperor, to rob and subjugate the people for achieving the personal immediate benefit.
Although, the peace always returned after a long and painful years of disturbance – Russia began to move on and on to progress after crisis . 23 years ago (beneath our eyes), the history repeated. "Red Empire" requiring a serious and extremely careful reforms, was looted, pillaged and destroyed by a clique of unscrupulous nouveau riche and superior party officials "recoloured" and selled out to the recent "ideological enemies".
History is accelerating ... its rounds are getting shorter. And again - the second time on our life – the country just started with recovery after the "demolition" is facing the greedy carve-up. Those who did not succeed in reaving the long-suffering Motherland in the 90s, crave revenge now.

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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 01:55

Что разница во времени делает! Приходишь, а тут столько всего. Ладно, больше переводов хороших и разных. (В смысле - не выбрасывать же!

Добавила.

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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 02:25

Возвращение в Россию 5-10 переведу на французский.
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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 02:29

Возьмусь перевести Возвращение в Россию 8, 9, 10. Английский.
Так что это за мной. Покрасьте в синий, пожалуйста.
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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 06:48

Английский Беру 11-16 Закрасьте синим.
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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 07:36

Английский Беру 11-16 Закрасьте синим.


Ave, baikalchanga, Подруга: спасибо, все раскрасила :)

Сообщение отредактировал Derevo: 18 October 2014 - 15:52

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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 14:52

Пункт 8 готов:

8. The Euro-Atlantic values - "The values of a strong and fair state"? Boldly stated, Mikhail Borisovich! Currently, these values lead to the extinction of the nations of Europe, those who follow these values and those who have created this great Europe. The same Europe, our "homegrown' liberals are so fond of talking about. Is this your so-called "justice"? However, for some reason, you do not seem to care about the historical destinies of some Germans, Frenchmen or Britons; nor of Russians, Bashkirs, Tatars, Lezghins and so on. So, the "strong state" - presumably is a reference to the United States? After all, there is none of the "strong" (ie, a truly sovereign and independent) states left in Europe.
The last sovereign state in Europe, outside the former USSR, which dared to defend the interests of its citizens - Yugoslavia - was destroyed and subordinated 15 years ago. It was persuaded to follow the "Euro-Atlantic values" by bombs and missiles, by siege and by rebellion of migrants - incomers belonging to a different faith. Now it's turn for Belarus and Russia, isn't it? The Foothold in the Ukraine has already been created and now it's time for the "last push"? The values imposed by the world oligarchy (the "European", "Euro-Atlantic", "common", etc.) - are the values of the complete destruction of the nation-states and the radical abolition of all that is vaguely reminiscent of social justice. Here, Mr. Khodorkovsky, you are either ignorant or deliberately lying. Well, "ignorance" - I said it just for witty expression - I have no illusions about any flaws in your education. The Liberalism you promote, has its final goal of total globalization, the leveling of all peoples and religious communities under one consumer "comb", and installing the authorities of the global financial oligarchy, while eliminating of all historical states (the EU project was the first step in this direction). In the area of economic policy, liberalism is not only in practice but also in its theory firmly denies any social justice. The free market, the liberals talk about, is incompatible with the redistribution of the profit, on which the supporters of social justice insist. The more Russia will be involved in the processes of globalization, the faster it will lose its sovereignty and the ability to carry out social policy. Now, about the "mobilization". We, of course, need a powerful national mobilization against the aggression of the "Euro-Atlantists" aimed at accelerated final looting of Russia under the pretext of "integration into the world community" and "the global economy." Mobilization of both state and public. Because the threat is looming not only over the state sovereignty of Russia, but also over cultural and moral identity of its people, disintegrating under promotion and imposing of “Euro-Atlantic" vices - sodomy, debauchery, pedophilia, murder of children and the elderly (abortion and euthanasia), drugs, terrorism, and everything else that New "humane" World Order brings with it.
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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 15:53

Пункт 8 готов

Спасибо, внесла.

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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 15:57

Английский вариант, пункт 2:


2. Mr. Khodorkovsky, 10 years of imprisonment is a real tragedy for you. How much you could have stolen within that period! And now your only purpose is to compensate the loss of that decade. Let us examine the latest 10 years of your life. Mr. Khodorkovsky, starting from 1991 until your arrest you created a huge financial and industrial empire actually out of nothing (having invested not a ruble but misappropriated tens of billions of dollars of people’s property) and became one of the richest persons in the country. Moreover, you made your way over corpses like all other oligarchs of those times. Without any moral constraints you robbed and ruined the vast Soviet industrial heritage. You rolled in wealth and enjoyed elitism without any limits. At the same time my friends, comrades and me were almost continuously fighting for Russian people and Russia against the enemies of the Fatherland firstly in Transdniestria and later in Bosnia and Chechnya. And when we had to retreat losing our fights due to the betrayal of the so-called “new elite”, grinding our teeth and followed by despicable and hateful comments of corrupt mass-media pretending to be democratic, you, Mr. Khodorkovsky, and such-like were completely ignoring the needs of the country and its people. That is why our experience is completely different. You were learning to steal, rob and lie, and we were learning to protect Russia and people even when we were not asked. Imprisonment always changes people, sometimes it makes them better. But, alas, this is not your case. Even having released from prison, you have not pleaded guilty. Moreover, you have immediately joined the enemy’s camp, thus having confirmed that you had been imprisoned quite fair.

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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 16:30

Английский вариант, пункт 2.

Добавила. Спасибо.

Сообщение отредактировал Derevo: 18 October 2014 - 17:56

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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 17:43

Пункт 6.

6. What you say about "European values ​​and Euro-Atlantic civilization"not only has nothing related with Russia, but on the contrary it contradicts our national history, psychology and destiny. Europe moved away from their own Christian values long ago and​​ plunged into the quagmire of the most vile evils and the much-vaunted "Euro-Atlanticism" is nothing more than a geopolitical doctrine of global USA domination, which is against the peoples of the world who still are keeping their own religion, sovereignty and national traditions. Russia has already twice in the recent past affected by leprosy of "advanced European ideas" and gravely injured in crazy hobbies of own elite and intellectuals and today there are two ways: either to return to themselves and again obtain their faith, their tradition, their values, their sovereignty or to be dissolved in the global West, becoming a slave and disappear as a civilization and lose everything. Again I highlight what outstanding hypocrisy you, Mr. Khodorkovsky, possess when you regret about lost art, literature, science, space, and other achievements of imperial and Soviet "totalitarian past." Indeed, "wolf regretted mare and left tail and mane"! But even if we assume that some of what you have said is nearly true, then I ask you to brush up history: Russia received the Christian faith not from the Catholic West but from the Orthodox East - directly from the Eastern Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, being a guardian of true Christianity during millennium. However, can you talk about the Christian faith?
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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 17:56

Пункт 6.

Пункт добавлен, спасибо.

Сообщение отредактировал Derevo: 18 October 2014 - 18:36

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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 18:28

Пункт 7.

7. Everything, that Russia has today, has been created by our people and our country in a desperate struggle to keep our own identity, freedom and sovereignty. In the struggle against enemies both from the West and from the East. Russia had been developed first as a national state that had grown into a great empire because it was flexible enough in its ability to perceive the positive experience of neighbors. And there is nothing shameful or over honorary in this because this is a way of all nations who have sane rulers building and developing their own state. To adopt experience doesn’t mean blindly copy. We have already copied enough. Marxism, which had been brought to us from Europe, cost a lot to the country! Every nation and every country is unique. And like any field of fine grass and different flowers is wonderful that humanity is beautiful in its inflorescence of unique nations, even fighting among themselves for "a place in the sun", but they are not like a "lawn manicured public", in which they are tried to turn into by "Euro-Atlantic common human beings”.
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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 18:31

Переведу еще "Национальная мобилизация" пункты 19-22. (англ.)
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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 18:39

Переведу еще "Национальная мобилизация" пункты 19-22. (англ.)

Хорошо! :) Спасибо.

Сообщение отредактировал Derevo: 18 October 2014 - 19:49

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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 18:57

Пункты 9 и 10 готовы.
Вот если нужна для сверки слов сама речь Ходорковского: http://www.freedomho...er#.VEJWEovF8z4

9. «Whoever wants to be strong must not allow himself to fall behind». This is an absolutely right thesis. And that is why the decision by President Putin on the full rearmament by 2020 is an absolutely appropriate response to the Russophobe hysteria from the West. The Russian military, the leaders of the military-industrial complex, the regional industrialists and entrepreneurs need to replace the comprador elite of the 90s, the so-called "oligarchs", whom you exactly represent, Mr. Khodorkovsky. Russian oligarchs are alien to Russia - their capital and their families are in the West, although they amassed their fortunes by exploiting the Russian people. They represent the interests of the global financial oligarchy, they think in terms of ultra-liberalism and, in fact, consider themselves to be something of a colonial administration. That's why they prefer to voice their "revelations" through your "prophetic mouth" from Washington.

10. Today, the problem is not with Europe, but with Russia itself. Our way - is to return to ourself. We should return back to Russia, back to our history, to our culture, to our mission. This mission has always been and will always be to carry the light of the Christian faith, the ideals of good and social justice to the people of the world, to be the "refraining from evil", as the Apostle Paul said. We had a very troubled past. The whole of the 20th century Russia was shaking with fever of bloody revolutions and destructive wars. But, thanks to these hard trials, Russia has managed to keep much of what Europe has lost almost forever. And if Europe wants to return to its own traditions and the Christian principles it should be on the way with us, but not with the financial oligarchy of the USA, who brings to the nations of the world a godless civilization of moral decay, zombifying ideology, spiritual and physical death.
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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 19:54

Пункты 9 и 10 готовы.
Вот если нужна для сверки слов сама речь Ходорковского: http://www.freedomho...er#.VEJWEovF8z4

Отметила, спасибо. Ссылка пригодится в качестве помощи в переводе.

Сообщение отредактировал Derevo: 18 October 2014 - 21:44

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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 20:44

Пункт 19

National mobilization

19. Current authorities have brought Russia to the threshold of a decisive breakthrough towards independence, power and freedom, which is able to bring it out of American hegemony direct influence. Unfortunately, in my personal opinion, abovementioned breakthrough is obviously inhibited (I think by your secret and clear associates who still have an enormous influence because of the stolen wealth and domestic political influence they bought). There is a visible wavering on the need of moving forward. But the population of the country is quite ready for it, and that's what frightens you. Because of that there is hysteria about the threat of "Chinese protectorate." "Chinese threat" is a theory for a while. And clear USA protectorate, set over Russia as a result of the Gorbachev-Yeltsin treason, is obvious so far. The main threat to the sovereignty of Russia is in an aggressive onslaught of the global financial oligarchy, frightened by possibility of Russia to escape from a slop trough "of the colonial economy." And in its fifth column, in which you are one of the ideologists.
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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 21:00

Назвался груздем - полезай в кузов. Беру последние английские пункты 17 и 18.
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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 21:43

11-16 Немецкий

Aufbau einer gerechten Gesellschaft

11. „Die moderne russische Gesellschaft ist ungerecht organisiert“, - sagen Sie. Ich stimme vollkommen zu. Aber gerade Sie und solche wie Sie (ich wiederhole das oben Gesagte) haben die Gesellschaft zu dem gemacht, was sie ist. Sie nahmen die Krise der UdSSR zum Anlass und begannen zu rauben und Morde zu begehen um das nationale Eigentum unter den Nagel zu reißen. So haben Sie und Ihre Komplizen die Grundlagen der „modernen russischen Gesellschaft“ gelegt, in der die zynischste und niederträchtigste Schicht ein abgekartetes Spiel im Auftrag der überseeischen Kuratoren getrieben hat und alle Hebel der wirtschaftlichen und zum Teil der politischen Macht bekommen hat. Direkt nach seinem Machtantritt hat Putin angefangen die Situation wieder gutzumachen, aber die Ungerechtigkeit, die in den 90ern Jahren zum Gesetz geworden ist, war bereits tief verwurzelt. Aus diesem Grund wird die Rückkehr der sozialen Gerechtigkeit in unsere Gesellschaft ein langer und schwerer Prozess sein. Aber ich glaube daran, dass wir es schaffen werden, und zwar ohne die Ratschläge eines Ex-oligarchs, der sein Vermögen durch Ausplünderung der nationalen Schätze, geschaffen durch harte Arbeit von Generationen russischer Menschen, erworben hat.

12. Wenn ich Ihre Kritik des Privatisierungsprozesses lese (im Übrigen ziemlich begründete), bestaune ich Ihren Zynismus: Sie und solche wie Sie haben Ihr Kapital durch das verbrecherische Ergreifen des Volkseigentums erworben und jetzt versuchen Sie die Anklage gegen sonst wen zu erheben, nur nicht gegen diejenigen, die tatsächlich die Schuld dafür tragen. Privatisierung, so wie sie war, ist keine „Verzerrung“, es ist ein Verbrechen. Im Endeffekt haben nicht die gewöhnlichen Menschen das Eigentum bekommen, dafür aber eine flinke und gesinnungslose Minderheit. Und die größten „Teile“ des Eigentums wurden mit Unterstützung des ausländischen Finanzkapitals erworben,- des Kapitals, das wortwörtlich „über die Leichen“ ging. Wer, wenn nicht Sie, soll es denn wissen? Putin hat hier ebenfalls damit begonnen, die richtigen Proportionen einzuführen, indem er die wichtigsten strategischen Wirtschaftsbereiche an den Staat übergeben hat. Damit versucht er gerade die katastrophalen Folgen der verbrecherischen Privatisierung zu korrigieren. Ohne die Beseitigung der Oligarchie, die auf dieser kriminellen Privatisierung beruht, wird es weder soziale Gerechtigkeit, noch vollwertige Entwicklung des privaten Unternehmertums geben.

13. Dass das Erdinnere dem Volk gehören soll, da bin ich mit Ihnen einig. Ich habe bereits gesagt, dass manchmal (obwohl selten) das Gefängnis
zugute kommen kann. In diesem Punkt ist die Veränderung zweifellos positiv. Aber gerade das ist Ihnen doch passiert: die Aktiva Ihrer mittels krimineller Handlungen gegründeten Energieunternehmen wurden dem Staat (nämlich dem Volk) übertragen. Wie sonst kann man das Erdinnere zum Volkseigentum machen, wenn nicht durch ihre Verstaatlichung und durch die Umverteilung des erzielten Profits zu Gunsten der ganzen Bevölkerung? Diese Vorgehensweise schließt das private Eigentum von größeren Objekten im Bereich der Energiegewinnung aus. Die Yukos-Geschichte ist ein Beispiel dafür, wie das Erdinnere dem Volk zurück gegeben wird. Die Effektivität der Nutzung des Erdinneren ist eine zweite Frage. Zuerst soll man es Ihnen und solchen wie Ihnen abnehmen um danach maximale Effizienz zu gewährleisten. Und selbst wenn es sich heute noch kaum bestreiten lässt, dass die Abschöpfung der Ressourcenrente weit vom Ideal entfernt ist, es wäre das Wichtigste, keine Naturressourcen im Privateigentum der Oligarchen zu lassen.

14. Ein proportionaler Steuersatz ist der absolut richtige Weg. Es ist die Bewegung in Richtung sozialer Gerechtigkeit. Nur nicht Sie, Herr Khodorkovsky, sollten darüber diskutieren - Sie, wer sein Eigentum mittels Raub an der eigenen Bevölkerung aufgebaut und wer das Kapital ins Ausland gebracht hat. In welchem Land zahlen Sie Ihre Steuer? In der Schweiz, in England, in den USA? Geben Sie dem Volk das Gestohlene zurück, fangen Sie mit sich selbst an, bezahlen Sie Ihre Steuern in Russland. Oder müssen Sie dafür unbedingt zuerst selbst zum Präsidenten werden? Ein ähnlicher Oligarch hat letztens dasselbe seiner Wählerschaft im Nachbarland eidlich bekräftigt. Sein Name ist Petro Poroschenko. Er schwor, alles mit härtester Arbeit Aufgebaute dem Volk der Ukraine zurück zu geben! Aber irgendwie beeilt er sich nicht damit. Also fangen Sie mit sich selbst an! Zeigen Sie der Welt das Bild eines „verantwortungsvollen Steuerzahlers“! Dann wird jemand (der sehr naiv ist) Ihnen eventuell glauben.

15. Liberalismus, so wie Sie ihn verstehen, Herr Khodorkovsky, ist ein absoluter Irrtum. Es ist eine Irrlehre, die Gott, den Geist, die Kultur, die Menschheit und die Gesellschaft völlig ignoriert und die das Individuum, seine materiellen Privatinteressen und den Finanzbereich ins Zentrum stellt. Liberalismus ist nach dieser Auffassung absolut inkompatibel mit echter Freiheit: Wie kann ein Mensch frei sein, wenn die Gesellschaft, in der er lebt, sich in einer Finanzsklaverei befindet, in einer Schuldknechtschaft der internationalen Finanzoligarchie und ihrer lokalen Aufseher? Wenn sich das ganze Leben eines Menschen auf das Suchen und auf das Vermehren materieller Gewinne ausrichtet und wenn der Zustand des Kontos in einer Bank das Maß aller Dinge ist? Liberalismus heute ist eine totalitäre Ideologie, deren Ausbreitung von den USA zum Aufbau ihrer Welthegemonie genutzt wird. Für Russland ist er in keiner Weise hinnehmbar – weder in politischer, wirtschaftlicher, noch in juristischer. Und das ist das Wichtigste: Für Sie, Herr Khodorkovsky, ist Liberalismus die Wahrheit in letzter Instanz und nationale Entwicklung sowie soziale Gerechtigkeit haben Sie für populistische Zwecke vorbereitet. In Russland ist Liberalismus dem Untergang geweiht, er wird weder von der rechten noch von den linken akzeptiert. Es ist eine koloniale Ideologie, die gegen unsere russische Identität agiert. Indem Sie unsere Identität für den Triumph des Liberalismus zerstören wollen, zerstören Sie auch Russland. Es scheint, dass genau das Ihr Endziel auch ist.

16. Sozialorientierter Staat, gegründeter auf christlichen Werten, ist das Ziel, der Richtungspunkt und die Strategie echter russischer Patrioten. Für die Erreichung dieses Ziels können sich absolut ungehindert die „rechten“ und die „linken“, die Monarchieanhänger und die Befürworter des Sozialismus zusammenschließen. Und natürlich muss solcher Staat auf der Einhaltung der Rechtsnormen basieren. Aber was haben Sie damit zu tun? Sie sollen doch das Volk verführen, allerdings zeigt sich das Volk heute zu den Parolen über einen „sozialorientierten Nationalstaat“ geneigt (ohne das es im Ganzen versteht, wie man einen „nationalen“ Staat anstelle eines jahrhundertealten Russischen Imperiums bauen soll – eines Imperiums, in dem Hunderte von Völkern friedlich zusammenlebten und sich entwickelten). Dieses Almosen werfen Sie uns, dem russischen Volk. Aber die Russen sind keine leichtgläubige Herde mehr, die im letzten Jahrhundert bereits zweimal beim Versprechen märchenhafter Gewinne „angebießen“ haben und als Ergebnis Ozeane aus Blut vergossen haben. Ich hoffe innig, dass wir etwas gelernt haben und das wir die Wahrheit, das Wahre, von einer Fälschung in einem schönen Umschlag unterscheiden können. Ein sozial ausgerichteter Staat ist jeder beliebiger Mensch, aber nicht Sie, Oligarchen, Lakaien von Rotschilds. Lassen Sie, Herr Khodorkovsky, das Nationale und das Soziale; diese Begriffe verlangen saubere Hände und eine tadellose Biographie.

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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 21:47

Назвался груздем - полезай в кузов. Беру последние английские пункты 17 и 18.

Отлично!

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Сообщение отредактировал Derevo: 18 October 2014 - 23:41

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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 23:13

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11 "The modern Russian society is arranged unfair" – you say. Totally agree with you. However (I repeat the written above) it were you and people like you who did it. Taking advantage of the crisis in the USSR, you started robbing and killing, gathering to hands the national heritage. In such a way you and your cronies laid the foundations "of contemporary Russian society," where the most cynical and despicable layer has got all the levers of economic and partly political power, acting in collusion and instructions with overseas curators. Immediately after coming to power, Putin has begun to recover the situation. However, the injustice struck its roots deep. Therefore, it would be a long difficult process to return our society into social justice. But I believe we can get through it without the advice of exiled tycoon who made his fortune by looting the national wealth created by hard work of generations of Russian people.

12 Reading your criticism of privatization (quite reasonable, by the way), I am amazed at your cynicism: you and people like you have gained their capitals during this particular criminal seizure of public property, are trying now to blame whoever, but that really guilty. Privatization – at that form - was not "distortion", that was a crime. As a result, the property was received by agile and unscrupulous minority. And the greatest "chunks" of property were acquired with the direct support of foreign financial capital, wading through slaughter. Don’t you know that? Putin began to establish just proportions here as well, returning the most important strategic sectors of the economy to the state. Thus, he just trying to repair the disastrous consequences of criminal privatization. Without elimination of the oligarchy based on the criminal privatization, there would be neither social justice, nor proper development of private enterprise.

13 You are totally right. The subsoil should belong to the people. I have already mentioned, sometimes (hardly ever) a prison can be beneficial. At this point, the shift is undoubtedly positive. And that was the very your case: the energy companies’ assets were placed in state managing, i.e to the people. There is no other way to turn the subsoil into public property, but their nationalization and redistribution of profits extracted in favor of all citizens. This excludes private ownership of large objects in the field of energy production. Yukos is an example of returning the subsoil to the people. Another problem is the efficiency of the subsurface resources . First they need to be dispossessed of you and people like you, and then they should be used to maximum effect. Now the way of use the resource rent is far from perfect, this fact is hardly argued. The key problem is to leave nothing of natural resources in the oligarchy private ownership.

14 The proportional taxation rates – is the right way. This is a movement towards social justice. But this issue is not to be discussed by you, Mr. Khodorkovsky, who became rich by plundering his people and draw out his capital abroad. In what country do you pay taxes? In Switzerland, in Britain or the United States? Return the stolen to the people, start with yourself, pay taxes in Russia. Or in this case you need to become the president yourself? One similar oligarch in the neighboring country recently swore the same to his voters . His name was Poroshenko. He swore to return all the possessions to the people of Ukraine! But now he doesn’t hurry to do that. So start with yourself! Present the image of "a responsible taxpayer"! Somebody (strongly naive) could believe you in this case
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Отправлено 18 October 2014 - 23:43

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Добавлено, спасибо.

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15 Liberalism in your understanding, is an absolute delusion, Mr. Khodorkovsky. This is false teaching, completely ignoring God, spirit, culture, humanity, society, regarding the individual and his private interests, the material and financial field as of paramount importance. Liberalism in such understanding entirely incompatible with genuine freedom: could any person be free in the society of a percentage slavery and debt bondage of the international financial oligarchy and its local overseer, where all human life is brought to the search and accrual of material benefits, where the state of account is the main measure? Liberalism today is a totalitarian ideology, and its expansion is the base of the US global hegemony. It is unacceptable for Russia in any form - neither political nor economical nor legal. And that's the most important thing: for you, Mr. Khodorkovsky, liberalism is the ultimate truth, and as for national development and social justice, you keep it for populism. New Russian liberalism is doomed, it is accepted neither by the right nor by the left. This is colonial ideology acting against our Russian identity. Trying to destroy this identity for the liberalism triumph, you destroy Russia. It appears to be Your ultimate goal.
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Отправлено 19 October 2014 - 01:03

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